Here is an easy rule of thumb concerning sms/chat messaging and in general communication; Silence is always the best option if you dont know what to answer or if you want to contact.
If you do not feed her attention, she (if she has positive images of you) will begin to hamster positive scenarios in her head about you. Furthermore, if she has any doubts or negative vibes from you than any small contact can tip her of her attraction.
When applying game, a large part of it is to come off as an attractive as a man you can present yourself.
Whilst «female game» is largely based on appearing as visually and otherwise attractive.
Thus for all «what so should say ? what should» either in text game or in person, I have developed a guiding motto for you.
This motto or mantra you can always, when you are in doubt.
Here it is:
«Would an attractive man do that ?»
Attractive here meaning, a man who easily gets women and has plenty of options.
So, should you text her after a she hasnt answered your calls etc ?
Just think, «Would an attractive man do that?». The answer is usually now.
In fact, my greatest improvement in game, was when I first of all believed I was a sexually attractive man.
And whenever I was about to do something that might be beta, needy or otherwise I just referred to the motto and chose the best behaviour.
Note:
This is not a license to be lazy. Many «naturals» approach, flirt, escalate and seduce. However, they dont give off the vibe in any form of communcation of «needing» the female.
«For a woman qua woman, the essence of femininity is hero-worship—the desire to look up to man. » – Ayn Rand
Say what you will about Rand, she had a knack for realizing some important truths and encapsulating them in very short sentences.
This subreddit has given my a much clearer imagine of what I could
only sense by smell and intuition but rarely put my finger on.
Background: Recently I was discussing attraction with a female acquaintance and she was describing how her male friends were complaining that females only like «assholes» and reject them. She was claiming that Game type advice such as negging etc. was universal, because everyone tends to want what they cannot have.
After a while she also transitioned to complaining about clingy and needy guys, who shower praise upon her and how that is unattractive.
I agreed, and made the point though that the reason it is unattractive is because it is unconditional, it is unearned. When you only reward a bitch, she will come to not value and maybe even resent your rewards in the long run.
She then proceeded to claim that when a guy is needy or not an aloof, asshole, it she will feel like he is lower value than her. And the hamster ultimately translated this to that this shows that he does not have enough self-respect.
I then explained that self-respect was much more important for a female to be attracted to a dude. A guy only needs the physical stuff in order, to be sexually attracted and a decent personality to be attracted mentally, while females have much higher demands of the guy respecting himself, aloof and a strong self-image.
The question this post tries to answer is; Why ?
Here goes.
Women are by nature, the weaker sex. This is obvious and well-known, in both physical and mental sense (iq, reasoning and emotional stability).
In our extreme PC society, this is ofc very taboo and «hateful» to believe consicously, much less actually espouse in public, but it is nonetheless true.
But the impact this has on sexual relations is that a female that wants to copulate with a male, must according to her tastes copulate with a stronger man, a better man.
Atleast than her, in her eyes.
Thus having you on a pedestal, gives her emotional and sexual stimulation.
Listen, all you beta deniers of Game, who are out to please the Feminine Goddess.
The Feminine Goddess in reality resents your meekiness and willingness to tolerate nonsense.
She would actually be more pleased if you felt and actively acted as you were more important than her, better than her and in general the best in the world, or the best she can get in the world.
If you wondering whether you need to learn Game, you should pontificate upon the following questions:
If you answered yes to any of these questions(especially the last one) then your probably in need of practising and learning to Game women ie. to partcipate in the mating ritual that precides sexual intercourse.
This last question, is of significance. It is significant because it shows when you go into your «seducer» role, something you are doing gets it wrong.
Especially, if you had experiences like I have had, where I would turn off women who were already into me by going into «seducer»/»loverboy» mode. Precisely because, my go-to-behavior for that scenario was a mix-match of intuition, instinct and baaad programming.
Game is basically installing the correct programming. To get better game, you must try other approaches to your goal of attracting and seducing women.
http://www.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/23gt0b/how_do_i_turn_from_an_incel_to_a_warm_blooded/
«You need to practice getting physical with a women, being in charge of the escalation.
You also need to practice seduction.
1) Start flirting with women in situations where your able
Flirting; banter, teasing, light negging, occasional compliment when she follows your lead (do as you say).
Get them to hang out with you.
2) Act on IOIs
If a lady is IOI-ing you, in a club, at work, in a grocery store. Try to pickup her.
The most important thing here is your mindset; You are a catch, you are a man, she is lucky to get your sperm.
Practice having this mindset, whilst your trying to get with a female and it will become your nature after a while.
3) Sex with a 6 is better than nothing with a 10
Since you are incel, do not obsess about getting hotties. Go for the women that turn you, that is the only thing sufficient.
You must get comfortable with undressing a female, and her bullshit last-minute shit-tests. Good luck!
Keep working on it. Every failure gets you one step closer to success.
«
Schedule a date with her and try to bang her.
The level of unecessary detail her, is amazing and I admit I have engaged it myself many times. Overanalyzing.
It is to me, a sign of overinvestment on the outcome, on your part.
Concerning this:
«Chatted a bit made some sexy jokes,she laughed,but I was feeling very tired of her at that point and I felt as shit that I didn’t succeed in my goal, and fuck it was raining ,so just answered shortly and hung up ,although I realized she wanted to talk more.»
Good. You restricted her access to what she wants; attention. Furthermore, she didnt give you what you want, yet atleast; sex.
The fact that you had to write;
«She laughed» is also an example of overinvestment.
You probably feel like «Ohh, I am getting closer to punani.» But the fact you even care/remember whether she laughed after or not, in that phone call means you are too invested in this outcome.
http://www.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/226san/found_out_girl_i_was_seeing_was_riding_the_cc/
My response:
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» I feel like she has ruined my reputation.»
You care too much about what other people and especially guys think. Most guys are betas, and will drag you down with their own insecure bullshit if you listen to em.
That is the only sticking point in my opinion besides putting this female on a pedestal.
I think if you get TRP youll understand there exists no such thing as a good girl, only girls with more/less restraint and marketing skills.
Think there is a single girl who have not fantasized about black dick, or DP or whatever ? Then you are retarded.
«The disgusted look on my friends face when he described how she drunkenly came onto him just made me sick.»
THIS is pathethic.
If a female is hot, who cares if she comes on desperately. Less work for you, my friend.
Guys who say this along these lines; «ughh, she was desperate for my cock» have essentially internalized the feminine mindset.
Less effort for punani, is the male dream.
You as well, only became disgusted because of two reasons; because you care what this guy thinks and because you made up this Disney fairytale image of this female.
If you want to be alpha, you have to put your opinion and happiness in the front seat. Not other men, not women and not chase fairytales fed to you by hollywood execs.
«You lowered my value»
Gilted romantic response. Fail.
Next time, spin plats, dont get attached to low-quality females and dont care what other dudes think.
Or rather, from now on, assume she is a slut until proven otherwise.
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Link: http://www.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/21qg80/walked_out_on_girl_but_unsure_of_whether_i_failed
The Original post:
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As a preface i’m a male uni student. the girl has 3 years on me.
I went on a date with a girl i had made out with at a party a week earlier. We go to the movies and end up at her house. We start making out once again, and she gets on top of me and starts grinding. I go for her bra, but the second my hand starts to undo it she sits up and stops me. «I’m sorry, you have to know me for at least 5 days before you can do that». So i resist and say «Are you serious?», which i believe was a mistake. regardless i continue making out and try once more, attempting to push past her barrier. She once again stops me. I just flat out ask her, «Is this going anywhere? You are grinding on me but you don’t want to go any further?». She tells me guys usually like when she does that and doesn’t understand where i’m coming from. I immediately tell her to stop and I promptly leave.
How could I have played this better? I don’t want to repeat my errors as I feel I could have closed.
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My answer:
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You didnt put up with shit you didnt like. GOOD!
You didnt recognize LMR, nonsense shit-testing. BAD!
Its ok, just practice.
My take on how to play it better:
«I’m sorry, you have to know me for at least 5 days before you can do that».
[She might have this rule actually, but rules go out the window if she is attracted enough]
So i resist and say «Are you serious?»»
[WRONG! You are appealing to logic, by trying to point out her inconsisten behavior. Never appeal to logic during seduction. Appeal to EMOTIONS or authority 🙂 😦 😀 😛
You are also putting her in a position of authority. This is what it sounds like to her at some level; «Oh, if you serious massa than I will just pack my manhood away in my pants after we spent an hour at the cinema attending to your needs for bonding and attention.»
My alternative response, written in front of a computer screen with «all the time in the world»:
Appeal to emotions:
«I feel like we have known each other for weeks already» Cha-ching!
or authority(ie, your self assumed authority over her body):
«Take of this bra now, I wanna see your tits (whilst rubbing her tits) ]
Or horniness:
Breathe deep in her ear, and tell your how horny you are, what you wanna do to her etc.
«[Breathing deeply] I wanna put my raging boner inside your wet pussy, I wanna ravage you like I am a caveman and there is no tomorrow! » Etc. etc.
«regardless i continue making out and try once more» Good!
«She once again stops me.»
[Her pussy is her triumph card. She wants to know she has value. Or she is not sufficiently horny. Women get turned on by the act of sex(male domination) and of being desired. Thus feed these feelings if she is not soaking already.]
«I just flat out ask her, «Is this going anywhere? You are grinding on me but you don’t want to go any further?».
[WRONG! Appealing to logic again! Dude, stop appealing to logic during seduction and escalation. Teasing, dirty talk, cocky & funny, assume the sale etc. NEVER LOGIC! Logic reminds a bitch to hold out on the pussy!]
[My alternative response, again written in the comfort of my own home:
I get so HARD when you grind on me like that, and (while grabbing her ass) your ass feels so good. I just wanna lay (throw her around into more submissive position) you down and fuck you like a beast! First SUCK MY COCK! (Whip out your cock!) ]
«She tells me guys usually like when she does that and doesn’t understand where i’m coming from. I immediately tell her to stop and I promptly leave.»
Everything is on you. You have to put your horniness out there, you have to put your sexuality on the line, you have to GIVE HER ORDERS on what to do WITHOUT OPTIONS to please you.
If she is not attracted ie playing along, then leave, or if at your crib stop giving her attention.
Please read more redpill books. And good luck next time. Just being at TRP means you are on your way.
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I am writing a document for some younger male relatives, because I want them to avoid the bp pitfalls with women.
Furthermore, one of my older and closest male relatives also has a very bp mindset and has been in a relationship for 6 years.
So this post is for a piece in that document, called «Eight Signs she is in love», where I am thinking about how to identify if your her «alpha fuck» or «beta buck».
Here are the signs:
Please add other suggestions if you have any or comment on mine.
Do high-quality men value sluts ? Do they give them the time of day, except the occasional pump and dump ?
Lets define sluts; a woman who has low standards for giving away her pussy (sexual resource).
It just hit me while reading another TRP post about women wanting emotional attachment. At first I was a bit confused, betas are always offering up their emotional attachment so easily and get nowhere (at best) and taken to the cleaners (at worst).
Then it hit me, women will not value your emotional attachment if its not seen as high-value and something to be earned, and re-earned to keep it. That is a «challenge», that is a reward that is sweet precisely because it was earned.
When woman sense that you give your love(emotional attachment) too easily, they sense that your the male equivalent of a slut. A man who gives his resource away too quickly, namely emotional stability and support.
The Beta in society is in fact a slut, a male slut, who gives his emotional commitment to a very low standard of women, too easily and thereby is not highly valued by women.
The beta mindset promoted through media, feminist legislation, in general the sissification of modern society and the natural restrictions on sex (hypergamy), produce especially bluepill male sluts in this day of age.
Time to wake up MEN! Dont be an emotional slut, be a MAN!
Sometimes what is needed is shock therapy
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